Twopost
Usually after drinking whiskey.
It's hell on girlfriends.
- Indigobusiness said...
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Bakunin has it knocked, he expresses a fine perspective...save for one aspect of this:
"The liberty of man consists solely in this: that he obeys natural laws because he has himself recognized them as such, and not because they have been externally imposed upon him by any extrinsic will whatever, divine or human, collective or individual"
Divinity, if it has meaning, is as naturally intrinsic as gravity. Suggesting otherwise echoes the crux of the misguided argument ripping the seams of humanity, and modern culture.
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I know what you mean, and agree with you completely, but I think he meant the church. Actually, I'm sure he meant the church and its "divinity". He was only mentioning what "God" imposes on us through the church. His inverted comas were jammed at the time.
He's a fine man, and I would risk saying I agree 100% with him, but even if he said something not quite right to me I still have to admire him imensely. He's a very special man. - Indigobusiness said...
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Yes, he surely is that.
It struck me as an important distinction, though. As articulate as he is, I'm surprised he didn't spell that out better.
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History will flay these ship-jumping rats, along with the captains, and trumpet the illegitimacy of the invasion.
It will go down as one of the most ill-conceived military adventures. - dave bones said...
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Do you seriously think they are on the way out? Will the Dem's do any diferent?
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Maybe they will be more inclined to 'err on the side of caution' in the future.
But somehow I doubt it.
& to your point, Dave: No I'm not convinced that the Dems would have been much better... but then again, there's another example of 'err on the side of caution' ie - Vote Democratic.
Beyond that, fuck them all. - Indigobusiness said...
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Dems see the world through entirely different eyes. Don't buy into the horseshit that they are remotely the same. The system stinks, and only makes it seem so. Perhaps the honest moderates are somewhat similar, but they're fairly rare.
We need a change in worldview in the halls of power.
The system needs meaningful change. There are too many schmucks in politics. The system weeds out colorful people, and too many people of sincere vision.
Anyone who beats the Liberal/Conservative drum is a charlatan. Listen closely for meaningful rhetoric, not sloganeering. It's easy to weed-out the crooks.
I predict the Dems will run the table. - dave bones said...
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and that will change what?
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There is an unchecked diabolical cabal manipulating power...promoting policy and hidden agendas potentially dooming us all.
You want me to list the egregious examples? It's truly appalling.
If Dems succeed in getting an honest vote count, and there is a resulting balance of power, at least there's a chance for sordid hidden facts to be revealed, and more corruption to be squelched by courts, etc. The convicted co-conspirators are adding up, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. If the Dems get the bit in their teeth...watchout.
It's time to look under the rug and clean house. We desperately need a fresh start.
Cynicism is pointless.
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As a child of 8 and upwards, my favourite reading apart from science fiction was second world war stuff, especially the Nazi and Japanese torture methods. I found the books in second hand stores along with discarded hippy books like BE HERE NOW. All I could afford, the twin poles of selflessness and sadism. Which is why I am now a priest.
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I preach, but I'm no priest.
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How do they come up with these experiments? Do they do brainstorms in their labs where they're like, well, what shall we do today? I know - let's get some... some water, okay, and then we'll subject it to high pressure... let's say 100,000 times atmosphere... no, I say 170,000 times... okay... and then bombard it with microwaves... no, not microwaves, we did microwaves last week... let's do x-rays... and see what happens...
So what would happen if we pressurised cookies & cream flavoured ice-cream to 57,000 atmospheres and held it upside-down and bombarded it with infra-red light? Or carbon at 350,000 atmospheres and gave it a good shake and then bombarded it with UHF radio waves? The secret of the universe may be hidden in experiments like these, who knows... - Indigobusiness said...
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The universe has no secrets, but I figure these sorts of discoveries are always serendipitous...like discovering the cure for hiccups by sticking a finger up an asshole.
- Indigobusiness said...
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No secrets, just riddles.
Indigobusiness said... Expertise without vision is only so useful. Recognizing the tea leaves helps little without comprehending their message.
You make a strong point for the ultimate impact of our abuse of resources. The dovetailing breakdown events will feed on themselves in a feedback loop, the scope of which will be far more dire than Stern suggests.
We live in a fragile and weakening system. If anyone thinks modern cities can cope with real calamity, just have a look at post-Katrina New Orleans.
We are eating our future.- Bostick said...
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Religion pisses me off.
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Me too. Pisses me off, amuses me, interests me, scares me.. powerful stuff.
& then there's 'wtf constitutes a religion anyway?'. - Angel Feathers Tickle Me said...
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Religion should not make a person hateful. It is a personal choice and is a completion of you.
You are not just what you eat.
You are a special mixture of thoughts. - twit said...
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Sincere thanks for your thoughts, AFTM... positive stuff.
In a sense, nothing 'makes' a person anything really. We use religions/concepts/ideas/identities to justify whatever we really need them to... be it ugly, kind, beautiful, cruel.. whatever. - Indigobusiness said...
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Religion is about one thing: the realization of ultimate human potential.
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"about one thing" eh?
You could say the same about science. So do we call science a religion..? Yeah, if you want.. But it soon becomes a big mushy soup of vague meaningless shit though doesn't it?
Desperate grasping, all of it.. [even this]
..Vain piffle. PAH!
Put your kinky Nazi uniform away & have another Absinthe, Ib.
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Nazi? That just illustrates how much you miss the point. I don't make the definitions, and nobody is forced to acknowledge them. But they are what they are. Though they often get lost in the noise of style over content.
Religion is about the realization of ultimate human potential. That is true.
Opinions of that pursuit are only that. I'm making no advocacy for any side.
Why you would call me vile names is a mystery. Or confuse the distinction of Science and Religion. Though Science, in its description of all that is, has been doing a good job of proving, scientifically, many eastern religious concepts.
It's important to separate essential Religion from Church and practice. Nothing more despicable than the evils done in the name of Religion.
Nazi? That's a corker. - Indigobusiness said...
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Ignorance pisses me off.
- Indigobusiness said...
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Prolixin was sent from the bowels of Hell to announce, via these demonic campaigns of inhumanity, the true taste of ultimate consequence.
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You are a self-obsessed bitch!!
- Indigobusiness said...
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The first step of solving a problem is recognizing it exists.
You'll get over your badself, I'll bet.
There's still time.
If not, youll leave a colorful path of devastation in your wake, and that's something. - Paulette said...
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Thanks for your kind words Indigo. It just seems that we need chaos to produce beautiful things, and at the moment my life demands organization. I just miss my messed up self and her crazy thoughts.
wish I could blog more but things are just too normal in my little world. Let us read blog ho for now, then. - Indigobusiness said...
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BlogHo is navigating a bad patch of his own. He also hears my absurd words and ridiculous advice, but he seems to benefit little. He tells me his specialized opinion of the concerns I express. I understand nearly nothing, but I'm increasingly convinced he really is quite mad.
It seems he isn't fully benefiting from such a fine smoldering madness... he should be payed handsomely for it. That's what I think. But real money paydays are infrequent, often late, and usually in lump sums.
The point is to enjoy the madness, whatever the season. But I won't be telling him this, he called me a robot today, and I'm not sure there's much left to say.
It's scary when you can't get off-center enough to generate the friction of inspired living. Just don't get too comfortably numb. - Carlos Carah said...
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hahahaha! eu sou mais ou menos assim também, parece que tacaram fogo na minha cara e apagaram com pauladas.
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"It's scary when you can't get off-center enough to generate the friction of inspired living. Just don't get too comfortably numb." That's my post in tidy up words. haha
Most people don't like advice, especially because we only learn if we live things inside our own brain and it changes our chemical links. There is no other way. Sometimes when we try and "help" people we do the opposite cos the person needs to go through some shit to gain that knowledge. sorry to give you my " specialized opinion of the concerns you express" but I lived it myself and would morbidly love to see what hell produces in blog ho's blog. haha.
I kind of like to listen to other people's view and try to imagine how it would be if I had that link made in my brain, but it is all imagination.
I agree we shoul enjoy madness. Sure. I enjoy everyone's madness. I'm looking forward to the day we call it normal. - Indigobusiness said...
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Ho still loves me. Can't fool an old fool.
Most people don't like my advice because it's usually in the form of thinly veiled insults.
Who really is fit to judge madness? Or define it? Sanity is only sanitized madness, I figure.
There's a movie, a collection of shorts by great directors, called Aria. One French segment has the madhouse folk taking over the Opera/Theatre... Good stuff.
I listen only to bad advice. - Paulette said...
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"Most people don't like my advice because it's usually in the form of thinly veiled insults."
Cryptic ones, I suppose.
I'm trying to surround myself with cryptic people! It's great! It's like going to Finnland! - Indigobusiness said...
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When I indict myself, I don't like to be too blatant.
Otherwise, I'm an open book. - twit said...
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I'm trying to surround myself.
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I totally agree with Will's comment. However, living in Texas, it's more difficult to say that most Americans aren't gun crazy because most Texans are.
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I disagree with everyone.
I'm generally disagreeable.
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This is emblematic of how twisted our values and priorities have become.
It is not idealistic to think we could minimally ensure the basics of food, shelter, and health care for everyone in this country. It is eminently doable...if our resources were not squandered on the madness of military adventure, the hoarding of wealth, and the short-sightedness of class struggle.
History will one day judge America's recent choices, and view them as no less selfishly vile as those of Nero's Rome. - La Sirena said...
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I'm afraid so.
Here are some depressing updates. The healthcare/ case management program I located for the gentleman mentioned in this post lost more funding this fiscal year. They can't take any new clients, because they are already working at double their case load. The kind, professional man who is my contact there was going out to the shelter and the streets to find the ill gentleman and to try and set him up with something else -- so say some prayers/ mantras/ wishes. Otherwise, I'm sure I'll be hearing from the gentleman today -- so if anyone has any ideas let me know....I'm fresh out.
Also, my boss came back from presenting at an army hospital. He was stunned by the sheer volume of permanently disabled solidiers(amputees, parapalegics, etc.) arriving literally by the boat load and jet load every single day.
And those are the wounds we can see.
I think I'm going to drink tonight. - Indigobusiness said...
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The horrors are just beginning to ripple through the pool.
I think I'm going to drink lunch.
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True -- in the U.S. people have apoplexy if they see you nursing your child, but have no qualms about giving the same child a toy gun 2 years later.
I agree with your friend about demystifing alcoholic beverages, but I also took that approach with firearms. Shoot the gun once so you know it kills for real. - Indigobusiness said...
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I realized we were well past redemption in America when I recently saw, on TV, a perfectly innocent baby's bottom blurred out. To spare us the vulgarity, I suppose.
Do-gooders push every remotely controversial issue into a twisted state of depravity. - Indigobusiness said...
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Regarding the acute blindness on the part of the Great American Public, and some bizarre and twisted values...and the subsequent violence:
The cultural failing that everyone seems to ignore, is no basic rite of passage.
Catch as catch can is a pale, dysfunctional facsimile.
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Apart from implants (in general) being a sad sign of the quick-fix mentality in our culture, breast implants just don't FEEL right.
I was with a girl who actually said to me "don't put your whole weight on them" ... WTF!?
Ick.
No.
Don't get me wrong, I love big boobs.. But I love ALL boobs.. & I would much rather be with a girl who was completely "flat" in that department but happy with HERSELF.
If it's just a quick fuck then so be it - I'll fuck anything.. but if you've been suckered into this hideous current trend, it's highly unlikely that I'll take you seriously.
(Not that I'm really any kind of a "catch" but you know what I mean:) - Indigobusiness said...
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I agree, but if you were any real catch, you'd go fuck yourself.
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Why do I feel damned with faint praise?
- Indigobusiness said...
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Quite the opposite, I'd reckon.
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What would be the opposite?
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We live in a world filled with paradox, and we've dumbed our collective self down to the point of losing touch with the virtue and value of our contradictions.
Great post, Bing. Keep it up.
This post has been haunting me. It keeps rolling around in my mind. I'm compelled to add a comment about Capitalism.
Healthy Capitalism is characterized by honest markets and fair profit. It is not imbued with a pervading ethos of greedily gaming the system.
When I was young, I can remember an acceptance of a standard 40% mark-up. Now, it seems like whatever the mkt will bear, or whatever can be gotten away with, is the ethic of almost everyone. Deceit is rampant, in even the most staid businesses. TV commercials are rotten with smirking deceptions and deviousness.
I'm losing hope. I'll leave you with a quote. Thanks for the opportunity to unload about this.
“The beauty of the dream vanished, and breathless horror and disgust filled my heart.”
-- Victor Frankenstein
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Great dream, I would've bet on you, but anacondas have no fangs.
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My Sweet Indigoprecision,
True -- real anacondas are constrictors and have no fangs (see the picture) BUT superhuge dreamscape anacondas sometimes develop fangs to further intensify the sense of terror and urgency in the dreamer.
Form over function, in this case. - Indigobusiness said...
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I started to mention the picture, but, as can be plainly seen, anacondas are equipped with needle teeth which can well do the damage mentioned. And since fangs are just specialized hollow teeth in the case of snakes, and just plain teeth in carnivorous mammals, it was a petty point to try and make.
But, speaking of making, the dream is the tits...especially the unpublished part deux.
Smokin'!
I'm all for Better Bordellos, digital remastering and the extraction of long fingers to champagne pops, etc. Lawdy, I think I've got the man-vapors, but I'm definitely behind probing orifices and suddenly turning anything into a lesbian kitten pile of an orgy. - Bostick said...
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Since it is close to halloween and all I feel compeled to share an interesting movie fact. The mask that character Michael Meyers wore in the 'halloween' films was molded from a cast of William Shatner's face.
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Thank you, Bostick. That was worth reading.
Bill's got a great face, I reckon. - Indigobusiness said...
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I have a face like William Shatner.
- Indigobusiness said...
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But a far better last name.
When a surname begins with Shat, it can't be redeemed, no matter what follows.
Even, for instance, Shatless...
It's simply too late. - Deanna said...
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At least it wasn't Shathead.
- Indigobusiness said...
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Ner means head, in Croatian.
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Thanks for keeping my blog nice & anal folks.
>;¬]~ - Indigobusiness said...
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Did you notice my effort to turn it oral?
(Nice soul~patch, btw.)
- Indigobusiness said...
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Does it burn when you pray?
Seduce your demons.
Or, become a monk.
Or, simply go to Thailand and help those who truly know suffering rebuild their lives. They haven't given up. They'll save you. - Lazy said...
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join the army... become a comedian...
no... become a junkie... i dare you dare you... (no need to fight, throughout the night, never a frown with golden brown...) - bangbang said...
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You realy wanted to be fucked in the ass? It`s highly overrated.
Hi, Indi. Oh, no you don`t alienated me and sorry, for the confusion.
Was just a fun for me. - Indigobusiness said...
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Bangbang- Glad you're back, I've missed you.
All agreed on the overrated, I'm guessing.
In defense of Thyfleshconsumed, it seems he'd wish life would leave his ass alone, entirely.
He'll be fine once the sting subsides. - bangbang said...
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Hey,ja realy!?
You`re nice.
And I hope Thefleshconsumed suffers on (not realy), so I can leave my empty bullet casings.
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Hmmm, interesting...what do you think IB? Sorry I have been away I do not get as much computer time at the moment.
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Good to see you, Treacle. I've been wondering how you were faring in your transition to the big city.
This subject is old news, and, although a bit tortured here in its overstatement (i.e.- "...receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians."), it strikes me as a good thing to emphasize how comparatively immature and propagandistic we are today, regarding agents of the spirit and our bountiful world in general.
We've turned this stuff into a clown act, in my opinion. A tragic one at that.
You may have seen this quote I post from time to time:
"The contemporary World War on Drugs is nothing more nor less than the modern manifestation of the millennial struggle between state power and individual freedom; between the proselytizers of purely symbolic simulacra of religion - propagandists of what Blake called "pale religious lechery" - and the practitioners of the real thing - for religion is an experience, not merely a "social activity with mild ethical rules." This War on Drugs originally started as a War on Religious Experiences, and it is nothing new..."
—Jonathan Ott - treacle said...
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We can only truly understand what our experience of the timeless, higher-dimensional, all-knowing is. I guess that is what's called faith.
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I think there are forms of knowing beyond the rational, more customary cognitive determinations.
When I was studying art, I was mystified as to the real meaning of art...and had been all my life. From an early age I had been drawn to this mystery and felt compelled to wrestle it into resolution.
One day in college, I was in the painting studio and I had a sort of
epiphany, I felt suddenly golden, I realized I got it. Not at all sure of when, or how, it happened...but it had definitely happened. My world was forever changed.
I suspect knowing anything of deeply amorphous significance might be realized this way. We generate our thunderbolts, if we do the work.
It might be like a deaf man enjoying the music by its vibration alone, but we can know, to some degree. I believe that. - re: Cure hiccups with a finger up the ass
A New Zealand medical journal recounts the story of a man whose incurable hiccups were cured with a finger up his ass: etc - Lazy said...
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The Dr Fesmire who came up with that received the Ig Nobel prize for it... Marc Abrahams, originator and presenter of the prize, said: "Quite why Dr Fesmire decided to try this in the first place, I am not sure. But that is why he is a pioneer of medical science, and I am not."
Well said.
However, I am not entirely sure this works as a self-administered cure. I'm waiting for the hiccups so I can try. But I think it may work on the traditional "a good shock will cure the hiccups" principle. - Indigobusiness said...
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I think it's just an excuse to experiment with the anal second circuit.
Pioneers ain't what they used to be. - annulla said...
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Isn't that one of Mark Foley's excuses? "I was just trying to cure the page's hiccups. Yeah, that's it, hiccups."
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Yep, Annulla, I think you've pegged it.
So to speak.
I detest butt implants.
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This is just so fucked I can't even come up with a better word. It's even more fucked because it's not the least bit shocking to me.
Notice that child rapists catch 8 or 9 year sentences. If they had a cannabis plant, they'd catch a 20+ year sentence. - Indigobusiness said...
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True.
And frankly, I'm just as irritated with the complacent chickens who stand by while we lose our identity and language to the lunatic fringe. We need to recapture and own our voice and sense of outrage.
As this article illustrates, just because someone calls themself Christian does not grant them the moral high ground. Usually, it's the opposite.
An extremist is an extremist -- Muslim, Christian... - Indigobusiness said...
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Lunatic fringe has no solid definition. It morphs with every use. It once had an aura of beguiling eccentricity about it. Now, in this age of meanness and marginalization, it is used like a knife...by everyone.
But, I know what you mean. My big complaint is that, even with all our modern advantages, we sink ever deeper in the mire of our self-indulgent folly. Our divided house can not stand much longer. If our culture matured in-step with our technologies, we would honestly broker our disagreements in a mutually benificial way. Instead, we game the system for personal advantage, to our monumentally extrapolating peril.
The danger of our impact is not only to others and other things, but to ourself as well.
We are on a downhill suicidal track. - La Sirena said...
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Suicidality is not a tolerable state. I refuse to lie down and take it.
We may be Cassandras howling into the winds of the Aegean Sea, but howling is something.
No culture could mature in step with modern technology. It accelerates at such a rate, there's barely any time to assimilate as a culture -- instead we've become cultures ("a house divided").
Maybe we'll survive a rollback. Spain and Ireland preserved the knowledge and literature of the Classical Era during the European Dark Ages, and later there was a Renaissance. - Indigobusiness said...
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Tolerability is not at issue. It is what it is. Nobody, in their right mind, ever chooses to suffer.
My reference was to the culture not the individual. A calamitous tide swamps all boats. We will see how it unfolds, and struggle with the forces along the way.
If technology outpaces our ethical maturity, it will destroy us. Nothing before, in recorded history, has had that power.
We do what we can, nothing more. But we should be driven to do at least that. - Indigobusiness said...
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It is to see this war for what it is: a battle between men filled with contradictions, inconsistencies and weaknesses -- not a mythic struggle between our supermen and their ghosts.
That's about as articulate as it gets. - dave bones said...
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pretty ineresting article no? guy's like a "khatashin"
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Yeah, but nobody ever knows how long a war will last. There are never any guarantees. War is utter folly, even as a last resort. It is always either an admission of colossal human failing, or the calculated plan of monsters.
Mocking the possibilties of peace ultimately leads to the questioning of genuine and twisted principles, after enough blood is spilt. A devotion to principle is admirable, until that devotion is manipulated to the point of compromising that very principle.
Seems everyone is asking wtf? Too bad it takes so much death and suffering for the scales to fall from the eyes of the extremists, the idiots, and the fools...on both sides.
- Morphine just happens to perfectly fit our endorphin receptors. Fancy that?
Sanctimony and righteous indignation are two separate and distinct things.
When I begin a comment with I.:.S.:., I.:.S.:., I.:.S.:., for example, I'm usually being both sanctimonious AND righteously indignant. Mostly I'm poking fun at the very nature of pomposity...but there is always some degree of indignation and sanctimony.
It doesn't necessarily stem from a desire to be right, though. It usually is the result of an utter frustration with the world in general, culture in particular, and an abiding lust for truth. But above all, it is driven by delighting in absurdity. Therein rests the true underpinnings of civilization. - Indigobusiness said...
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It is beyond me how, in the hands of anyone else, these things would be a sordid tangle of tawdry nonsense, yet here it is presented as an exaltation: full of light and air and crazy wisdom.
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You're funny, Ib. If I'd written that, you'd have ripped it to shreds.
Aaaaanyway, interesting post,
Paula. Are you menstruating again?
Now THAT^ was a wee slice of nationalistic passive-aggression...
What ja fink?
;¬]#
God is NOT a Urinating Pigeon. - Paulette said...
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You made my day with your comment, IB
You're lovely people, you.
I'm not menstruating, no. To be honest I just wanted to introduce that sign to you cos I look at it everyday and it makes me smile. I think it's amazing: commit no nuisance. Quite abstract.
But it's true thou, here in England they invest a lot in advertising as a way to fix problems. It shows they are doing things but sometimes I think they are not. And I don't really expect them to do anything either. I love London, anyway... - Indigobusiness said...
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You're right, Twit, like I said: "...in the hands of anyone else..."
You sordid, tawdry twat.
We should drink, sometime, and trade insults.
Most excellent, the lighting here. Mind if I open a window?
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I insult you without even trying, Ib. To actually attempt to would be completely unnecessary.
E Tup:)
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Can't argue with that, Twit, but you should've kept your chin hair.
Pie? - Indigobusiness said...
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"TWAT is going well, don't you think?"
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I know! How the fuck did that "example" get in there?
I have never heard anyone say that; infact they would have to be a complete twat to say it.
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Eureka! - juicya said...
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i shall be certain to yell it out at my earliest convenience....and not because of the war against terror.
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You go, Jucia! -there's always room in one's schedule for some meaty little expletives, isn't there?
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WARNING: Rude & Culinary Words Approaching
"Twat" is to "Cunt" what Madrass is to Vindaloo. - Indigobusiness said...
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Now that's funny.
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Story of my life that, Ib; I get laughs when I'm trying to be factual ..& vice versa!
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